Monthly Archives: January 2012

BDSM Pain & Torture

Subspace – Has the submissive had enough?

Does reaching subspace mean the submissive has had enough?

OK yes, this is the attitude I’ve generally experienced, and IMHO why book/internet learning is never enough to indulge in heavy scenes – you can study anatomy and first aid and practice your whip skills on teddy bears for years, and still not be able to make a judgement call like that.


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But starting to think that maybe this attitude is a minority one that I’m seeing more because of how I play in the first place (and therefore who wants to play with me) rather than a common goal for submissive/masochistic types.

Maybe it’s a chicken and egg scenario.

By Magick of The Pain Files and Shadow Slaves

BDSM Pain & Torture

Subspace – End Of The S&M Play? Part 2

Is It boring if it always stops when subspace is reached?

Actually that’s a very good point. I have known a few girls who can start spacing with just the right words whispered in their ear, or by having their hair pulled. SM for them would be pretty limited if everything were to stop at that point.

Again – I do agree that playing into subspace isn’t always advisable with a casual or new partner, but as I said in the OP, this was a question relating specifically to deep long term M/s relationships.

Actually… it occurs to me that maybe the replies I was seeing were informed by the fact that the OP had to ask the question. Clearly, dealing with subspace is new to him… but I can’t help thinking that saying ‘that’s when you stop’ still might not be the best advice to learn how to use it in a long term deep relationship.


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I can’t help considering the simple fact that many girls have said that what they like about playing with me is specifically that I don’t stop if I can see they are not in genuine trouble or imminent danger, whether due to subspace, or tears, or begging etc., – and are fed up and tired of guys who do (stopping them from reaching the places they want to explore). So it would concern me that advice like this could actively be damaging if the sub comes away feeling unfulfilled.

On the other hand of course, there could be an element of my simply attracting girls who have that attitude due to the apparent severity of my published work etc. – I suppose I get just as many, if not more, that have the attitude ‘You seem like a nice guy, but ain’t gonna be letting you near me anytime soon’.

By Magick of Shadow Slaves